Well if you want serious discussion on the topics you present , Ill start one . Im appalled at this interview , this interviewee and the institution he is trying to cover up for . There has never been a more evil , murderous, cruel , fraudulent, debauched , insidious institution or organization in known world history than the Roman Empire Catholic church. To talk about then as if there were a few bad apples or mistakes is the most gross understatement ever. To talk about them/it as if it was all in the past is as well . This can be shown with a perfect to the current moment example by the current Jesuit/Vicar of christ, evil pope who urged the “faithful” to take the global depopulation death shots ,”as an act of love” .How can one justify or excuse that? Does ANYONE think he does not know the agenda? We dont even have to get into nearly 2000 years of brutal, torturous, murderous forcing of a` openly admitted fabricated, forged,stolen from the past, belief system, simply for total control and enslavement of all mankind. Lets not forget all slavery since 1300 was authorized by papal bull. All indigenous people of the world were considered soulless heathens by these people and their false church/religion, which was and is just the extension of the Roman Empire, now rebranded as the WEF/NWO/great reset, their lands and resources stolen and still are to this day. More than 100 million indigenous people in the western hemisphere murdered or died of the diseases and plagues brought just since 1492. What mysticism can you be referring to? They have destroyed the true mysticism and spirituality of all people they have ever come into contact with, calling it heresy. What do you think the many inquisitions were. ? Why were the Carthars, the Templars, the Druids,African healers with 45,000 years of tradition, all Shamanic healers and leaders all destroyed . An office of the Inquisition still exists in S. America. I have seen it in action . Lets not forget Hitler designed his 3rd Reich on the Vatican/Jesuits, so did A.Weishaupt his modern Illuminati on July 4th 1776. Lets not forget the uncountable sexual molestation and Pedo problem numbers. They have simply tried to buy their way out of this , billions now paid out. This interviewee tries to use an absolutely preposterous saint story as some analogy. It is widely known by anyone who has done any research that most the “saint stories” are completely exaggerated or completely made up. I could say much more but just suggest ALL read J. Cirucci “s EATERS of CHILDREN, Tony Bushby ‘s THE CHRIST SCANDAL, &THE BIBLE FRAUD, David E.Stannards AMERICAN HOLOCAUST, and ZEALOT by Reza Aslan. These should be read together to get a full picture .